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Sex, SIDS, Stillbirth

    by Judi ~ September 13, 2008

I read this news story the other day, possibly, you read it too, about a 59 year old man who was illegally video taped having sex with his 50 year old comatose wife in a nursing home – where he thought he had some privacy. Now, my first thought was kind of “um, eww.. she was comatose”.

But, here’s a few more details. They two were married in 1988. The didn’t have any kids. He went to visit her every single day, reading to her from the bible, moving her arms and legs so they wouldn’t atrophy. In thinking a little deeper on this, I almost find it sweet… He loved her so much. I can imagine he talked to her like she could hear him, he read to her like she was listening and he probably loved on her like she was still aware. Whether that’s considered illegal or not, I can see in a way, where he was coming from. We, the general public, the deciders of what’s “normal” and “acceptable” in society don’t have to see it his way, it just is.

In 2000, my husband and I lost a baby. She was stillborn – I knew it when I turned 36 weeks during the pregnancy and she was born about 5 days later. I wrote pretty in-depth about my pregnancy and the birth story at the time. It was my “therapy”. Over the first few years, I edited parts of it out, because even though the majority of the responses I received were positive, and even thankful, a handful were not and I felt so bare and judged. I wish now I’d left it alone. Anyway, the thing is, when we are in a situation that is not the “norm”, we may handle things differently than what you, who has never been in that situation, may handle it. When we lost our baby, it was my husbands first child. We didn’t know her gender… it was so hard. But we did things like dress her, hold her, take pictures… all things that in years to come, we’d have as mementos. We talk about her, we note (but don’t really celebrate) her birthday.

What sparked my thoughts on this today, was first the article about the man and his wife.. but then this morning, an article about Why infants still die from SIDS. It’s unknown. We just don’t know why. We do everything right – like our baby Jordan… no idea why. I equivalate our baby’s stillbirth with SIDS.

People do things during times of stress and heartache, they may not otherwise do or may in other times, think odd or even gross.. but who are we to judge and condemn them until we have been there? And trust me, I’d never wish a person to walk the path of heartache, loss.


Random Facts About Me

    by Judi ~ April 10, 2008

Reward Rebel tagged me for Random Facts about me. I didn’t realize until this morning that Connie from Easy Share also tagged me for the same thing! I was double tagged. Wow! I’m terrible with doing these things in a timely manner.. but I think I’m only a week or so late on this one.

1. I gave birth to our oldest son in a kiddie pool, in our living room with just my husband, my mom and the girls here with us – a planned, unassisted homebirth. We video taped the whole thing. We did end up transferring to the hospital after the birth because Tege was slow to start breathing – that is normal for a water birthed baby.

2. The year before our oldest son was born, I was pregnant with my husbands first baby. At 36 weeks pregnant, she died of unknown cause – she was stillborn almost a week later. I can’t even tell you how difficult that time was – I didn’t want to leave my house, even to get the mail for fear someone would ask how things where. Losing a child, at any age is horrible… birth stories … while we don’t talk about it much any more, she is still part of our family. We have a garden dedicated to Jordan.. which this year, the boys will help plant, weed and water.

3. I make soap, though I do sell it, mostly I make it because I love making it. I haven’t used regular store bought soap (or deodorant bars) in about 6 years. I share tutorials and recipes about handmade soap on this site. My favorites are the Oatmeal Milk & Honey (scented, with real goat milk and oatmeal), Lavender (with goat milk, lavender and lavender essential oils), and Yuzu (a crisp, grapefruit scent – Japanese Grapefruit).

4. I love pets. Currently, living in our tiny house we have 3 dogs (Bean, our whippet girlie and oldest; Sky, our adopted Australian Shepherd; Enzo, my italian greyhound boy); I’ve assumed ownership of Olivia, my tiny, sweet Apricot African Pygmy Hedgehog – my little piggy; Not mine – 7 adorable and friendly rats, momma rat is a “dumbo” and the older she gets the sweeter! Oh.. and the cat.. she’s been with us forever; and a 10 gallon fish tank. In the past, I also had a couple of smiling leopard geckos, bunnies, a bird (mustache parakeet) and a multitude of other rats, cats, pooches and fishes.

5. I met my husband through my ex-husband – we were still married. Bad relationship and after too many years (but two lovely girls) we parted ways and he moved in with a friend from work. I had met this friend a few times, but when they moved in together, I started seeing him a bit more. He asked me to see Lyle Lovett in concert and even got permission from my then-to-be ex… one thing led to another and today, we’ve been happily (almost the whole time, ha!) married 11 years.

6. I have Crohn’s Disease. This is a big deal for me because I’ve always been so healthy.. and in the last 2 years, so much has happened. It’s not easy to deal with things like not being able to eat what you want – I’m talking even healthy food, like salad, beans.. so much makes me hurt, or worse, I throw up. Sometimes one of the hardest things being sick, is it’s not always (usually never) apparent to other people. I am sick and I hurt and I may come across crabby.. but it’s *because* I’m sick and I hurt. I sometimes wish for a t-shirt or a sign “Just because I look healthy, doesn’t mean I am”.

7. I can be kind of obsessive about things. Two summers ago, I spent a week digging a hole about 5×7 and 30 inches deep so I could put in a pond. I wanted a natural pond, so it would help wildlife.. after digging with a shovel, having my husband cut the roots with his saws-all, picking just under 1 million rocks and pebbles, I decided I couldn’t afford it and filled the whole thing back in. (Thanks GG, my lovely grandma, for this trait… actually I like the trait and I adore my GG.)

There you go.

I am going to just tag one person:
Marianne – and Marianne, you don’t have to play along.

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Birth Stories

    by Judi ~ November 16, 2005

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Pregnancy and Birth can be an amazing time for a woman. I found myself drawn to stories, images and having many questions about what if. Sharing our birth stories seemed very natural to me, even though things didn’t always go how we’d wished they would. In the end, we’ve been blessed with 4 amazing children, here on earth with us – who continue to inspire, bring awe and smiles to us daily.

Do you have a birth story you’d like us to link to? Please let us know. :)


Unassisted Home Birth – birthed at home, in a pool… just us.
Tege’s home waterbirth – a hospital transport
Unassisted Pregnancy – belly pictures

Hospital Births
Cassie – my first Grandbaby Anna – Labor / Birth Story… in a hospital. Anna has her own website ~ Anna Riley. See Anna Riley flickr set for pics.
Cassie – first birth
Emily – second child – story to come
Ryland – pregnancy – belly pictures
Ryland – hospital birth with midwives.
Ryland – home again

Stillbirth – Our loss Jordan Riley was my husbands first baby.. lost at 36 weeks gestation.

Belly Cast - Cas

Jordan – Stillbirth (disclaimer)
Jordan – Pregnancy of a Stillborn – belly pictures
Jordan Riley – Stillbirth Story
Jordan – Stillbirth (after) – Contains pictures

Other Pregnancy & Birth Related Pages:
Baby Shower Gift Ideas – I did a belly cast during my pregnancy with Teigen.. and we did one for Cas. It turned out so cute!
Memorialize Your Pregnancy – Six ways to make your pregnancy memorable. Nine months of pregnancy seems to last forever, but looking back, the time flew by.. Don’t forget little the things.
Beautiful Belly Pictures – I share a site I came across about womens post-pregnant bellies… good to read.


Jordan – Pregnancy of a Stillborn

    by Judi ~ November 4, 2005

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3/8/00 – 27 weeks – Belly is getting bigger…

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4/14/00 – Almost 33 weeks. Nice and round like a basketball!


Jordan – Stillbirth (after)

    by Judi ~ November 4, 2005

After Jordan’s stillbirth.


The nurse cleaned me up, the doctors left the room, the nurse made sure we had the placenta and could get it home to a freezer and then she left.

We begin the process of healing, grieving the loss of our baby, the loss of our child.

Jordan was with us from birth until our hospital stay was done. We held her, we kissed her. We took pictures of her. We shared her with our family… which before had seemed an almost morbid thought to me, the thought of looking, touching or holding a lifeless body, but at this time, was so right, so important to others too. We kept her close to us, and napped a bit before getting ready to go home. No one bothered us, no one came in. Oh, not true, the nurse who helped, she came in to tell me she was going home soon. She told me we did good, gave me a hug, gave Bob a hug. She told us Jordan was beautiful. She had tears in her eyes after Jordan’s birth, and again when she left. She told me she would think of me on Mother’s Day. And true to her word, I received a phone call from her yesterday, making sure I was ok. We napped in the room, with Jordan by us… I looked at Jordan’s mouth and did feel so much sadness that those perfect little lips would never wrap around my nipple to nurse, never smile, never wrinkle in fits of frustration… so sad.

When we were ready to go, we asked the nurse to come get her. We couldn’t leave her alone in the room. We stood and cried and held each other. To watch our baby go… and us… leaving the hospital alone. I carried a blanket the whole time I was there. The one I wanted for her so bad, it is now my blanket. I’ve slept with it every night, held it close. She left holding a little pink elephant. We will pick up her things this week from the hospital.

We had Jordan at 5:08p and didn’t leave the hospital until 12a, so we had her with us for 7 very short hours. But, we had her to ourselves for every minute of those 7 hours.

I just wanted everyone to know how good they were to us. Things weren’t at all how we wanted. But, they were good to us. Gave us privacy through the whole visit, from the beginning all the way up to the end. We couldn’t have asked for any better.

Just one more thought, before we went to the hospital, I have to say I was terrified of going through labor to birth a stillborn baby, our Jordan. I was so prepared for a homebirth, natural, in water. This was not what I’d planned for, not was I was prepared for. I was so afraid of what birthing a still baby would do to me. I didn’t think I’d have the strength. More than one person, worrying about me, suggested a c-section. For some reason, that just was not even an option. I felt so strongly that having Jordan vaginally was important. I felt that it was part of the healing process for me, no matter how scared I was. It turned out that it wasn’t what I thought. I didn’t cry right after her birth, I felt right. It was supposed to be this way, I was healing already, and Jordan was helping me. Just like birthing a live baby brings a woman joy, I felt joy at birthing Jordan. It was bittersweet, true, but I wouldn’t want it any other way.

We have already started our healing, but we knew it could not begin until Jordan was released, and so we did. I believe that Jordan’s soul went long before her birth, her release was for us, her family. I am now the mother of 3 girls. One an Angel, born with wings.

Just a quick note.. at the time of this writing, it’s a new year, January 2005.  We have gone on to have 2 more babies.  Teigen, our unassisted homebirth water baby and Ryland, our last, a midwife assisted hospital birth.  We still think about where our little Jordan would be today, if we she had lived.  However, we do not wish to change the fact that we have two wonderful boys now and two older daughters.  We are not people to live in the past… we always do our best to look forward. 

It saddens us each time we hear of an infant loss… During our past two pregnancies.. two list-mom friends have lost their babies.  After our loss, there were certain things that I seemed to almost search out.  Angels, Dolphins, Butterflies, Ladybugs in particular, I even had a blanket of Jordan’s that I loved.  Everyone has their own thing in which they find comfort. Searching for Infant Loss Gifts, Memorial Gifts or Remembrance Gifts could bring up some items which would be beneficial to grieving families.

Below are pictures of our daughter. Please keep in mind, she was stillborn. These stillborn baby pictures are not meant to be unnerving to others.. though I certainly understand why it would feel that way. No one wants to see a dead person, let alone a baby… I do not post these pictures to lead people to believe I am sick or in need of help. Quite the contrary… sharing the story of our baby loss was a very healing process for me. And I am only here to help support others going through the same loss in life. If you have not experienced your own loss of a child, I don’t expect you to understand… but until you walk in my shoes, please think twice about criticizing me… Bearing this in mind, you are free to hit the back button at any time.

If you are here because of an infant loss of your own, whether is it a pregnancy loss, infant loss, child or other loved one.. know my heart is with you… I will periodically post updates on the home page of my site, if you want to see how things are going. (7/02)

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Jordan Riley – Stillbirth Story

    by Judi ~ November 4, 2005

This is Jordan Riley’s stillbirth story. An infant loss is so heartbreaking. A baby loss is unexpected, we don’t typically think of losing babies. It’s hard for anyone to know what to do, how to react. I hope my sharing the story of our stillborn baby will help others find some peace in knowing they aren’t the only ones whose heart breaks at the loss. Possibly help in the grieving process.

I start when I first noticed no pregnancy movement. I was 36 weeks along.

I wrote to one of my lists on Monday about Jordan not moving and one thing they suggested was taking some time with just baby and me. I did take some *me & baby* time to talk to Jordan and what I felt scared me. You see, when I talked to Jordan… she just wasn’t there. I remember a few years ago when my grandfather lay in the hospital on life support. None of my family wanted me to see him. I went anyway and when I walked into his room, his chest was moving, but *he* was not there. I went to his funeral completely at peace. I felt he was in a much better place. Monday night, I was not at all ready to accept that of Jordan. I felt terrified that my feelings were right, and I prayed that they were not.

By Tuesday afternoon, still no movement. I called my midwife friend and she suggested we come out to see her, let her check for a hb. She was very concerned about how a hospital would treat us knowing we were planning a uc. (For those of you who may not know, uc is unassisted childbirth. This in no way had any impact on Jordan’s death.) She found no hb, nothing. Well, really we had little choice but to go to a hospital, as the death needed to be documented. So, she helped make arrangements for us to go to one of the hospitals and with her help, we were received very well. Only one person the whole time even said anything remotely negative and even that wasn’t, just the tone of voice… *So, why a homebirth?*…

Well, the hospital listened for a hb and then a quick u/s. It was a strange feeling to see her on a machine. We’d gone all that time, never seeing her, and here she was… and no heartbeat. We did not ask her sex. That was the only thing I had left. Later, another u/s was done before induction started, and even then, we did not ask.

We were given the choice to stay and start induction, or go home and wait. We chose to go home to wait. We needed to have some time. We spent the rest of Tuesday evening talking, Bob and I, about what was going on. How we felt. So much to talk about, to cry about, to be mad and happy all at once.

Wednesday was spent shedding many tears. Worry about what was to come. I was so ready for a homebirth. So ready to be here with my husband, my children and birth this baby into our own hands with no one to help. But, things were different. I would liked to have stayed home anyway, to birth her here. But, there were other factors that came into play for me, and for my family, and I needed (for me) to take a lot of that into consideration. And I decided that home was not the place this time. I was worried that going to a hospital I would lose so much, but it still was more important to me to do it that way, then to do it at home.

Thursday we just kind of existed. Some tears, some smiles, lots of hugs. During these two days, I talked to Tuesday (the midwife) who was wonderful. I asked about *natural* ways of induction, I asked what the baby would look like. I asked her about other women who had gone through this with her. I asked her lots of things. Even about how soon I could try again. I don’t want another baby to take Jordan’s place, but more that I was in a place were I was ready for a baby and, I still am. So, as sad as we are to lose Jordan, we are already ready to think of trying again.

Beginning the birth process – Stillborn Birth:

Friday morning I woke in tears… this needed to end before life could go on for us. We got the girls off to school, picked out a boy outfit and a girls, packed a bag for me and off we went to the hosp. I don’t know why I was thinking so, but for some reason I thought all would be done that night and I’d be home to sleep with Bob and the dogs that night… nope.

At 12:30p, they gave me a vaginal insert of sitotec (have no clue of the spelling – citotec). What we were told is it was *developed* for this type of situation. To get the cervix thinned and ready, and that usually after 2 inserts, labor would usually start on it’s own. I could have a dose every 6 hours. At 6 I got another… and contractions seemed to get a bit stronger, but still nothing much going on. Another at 12 midnight… I slept off and on all night, with Bob in a chair by my side. I had been there for 12 hours now, going on 18, and I have to say that all of the nurses, all of the doctors, were wonderful. They left us alone, only periodically (like every 3 hours or so) checking my pb, asking if I was hungry, etc. I got another dose at 7 or so… still nothing. They came in at 1p to start up an iv of pitocin. As much as I dreaded that, I *needed* it… in the sense that I needed this to be done. I needed to see my angel, hold her and kiss her.

The iv drip. I swear they cranked it up. By 3p, I was wanting something to take the edge off. I felt so bad, that I was cheating by wanting drugs. This was a decision I made on my own, and knew it then and now, that I will have to deal with it afterwards. And I will. Every one of my babies has been induced, and delivered with drugs. This is hard for me, as I am so afraid that I’ll never get another chance to have it all natural. By 4p, I was in so much pain. Crying through contractions, thinking this is too hard, the pit was too high, this was too much. I remember sitting up and seeing how high they had it on and pointing and say, *no wonder I hurt so bad… it’s too high, it’s too much*. I knew at this point it was too late. Even if they turned it down, it would no longer matter. I had been having contractions for something like 28 hours or so, my body was tired, I was tired, and well… I was ready for a break. I do remember thinking too, *this is transition… this is when everyone wants to give up… Its going to happen soon* but, even knowing that, I didn’t care. I wanted an epidural at that point. They did give me one, but just a shot in the iv (after they got it in), just enough to take off the edge… The nurse did check me about the time I was thinking transition, and I was at 6 (this was at 4 and I delivered at 5:08… it truly was transition and going fast!).

Once I was given the shot (at 4:40), I told them I could feel it still on my left side and I wanted to roll that way. I did, and the next contraction or maybe within the next 2 or 3, my water broke. It’s never broke on it’s own before… I felt that *pop* and the gush of fluid. I did things this time that I didn’t want to do, things I never, ever, thought I’d have to do or want, but there are some things that happened that make me feel good, make me smile, make me feel proud… the water breaking on it’s own was definitely one of them. It felt good. I immediately felt tons of pressure the next contraction.

Ok… I need to go back just a bit, before I go on…

At around 4 I was asking for an epidural. The nurse must have known I was getting close and I later told her that if she’d have told me how close she thought I was it never would have mattered, I still would have wanted that epidural. And even though I knew then I’d have to deal with how I felt about getting one, I don’t regret it. The guy that came to give it to me, was called away for an emergency. I was left still wanting it, crying and thinking I couldn’t go on. The nurse kept telling me to tell her if I felt the urge to push, that it was very likely I wouldn’t make it until he got back. So, she must have felt I was getting close. And I felt it too. So did Bob I think.

Stillborn baby is born.

So, my water breaks, I’m getting incredible pressure and I’m telling Bob *Tell her* *now*… He runs off to tell the nurse and wow… things are going, or coming, and it’s going to happen. I was so afraid I’d get scared and not be able to do what needed done. Her head started coming and the ring of fire that I don’t remember feeling before was there. I always thought it would be on the underside of the vaginal opening, but where I felt *fire* was up by where you pee. I remember thinking, *damn this burns*. I was a bit mad because I wanted it to stop. While I was waiting for another contraction to help get her head all the way out, I reached down and touched her… *my baby*… Got her head out, and her body seemed to take a bit too. I guess it’s harder because when a baby is still born, you don’t have the baby’s help in coming out. I do remember thinking that she wasn’t helping me, she wasn’t wiggling like she would if she were alive. It didn’t make me sad though. I felt very much that things were going the way they needed to. Then, I felt her little body slide right out. This was another good feeling I had, as I don’t remember *feeling* my others come out. It was something I wanted to feel so much, and I got to.

They looked at her quickly, while she lay between my legs, and clamped the cord (nothing noticable that caused her death). Another thought at this point was that if she’d not been still born, they would not have been doing that (clamping her cord). They layed her gently in a blanket and layed her on my belly. I have pictures of her there. I was so groggy, but she was so beautiful. She looked like an angel. It wasn’t until a short time after she’d been laying on me that I thought to ask if she was a boy or a girl. They left me alone for close to an hour waiting for the placenta. Finally, they reached up inside and it was there, so they went ahead an pulled it out… if I’d stood up, it would have just plopped out. But, this was fine. I asked to see it (daddy was holding his angel) and they showed me the baby side and the other… I’d never seen it before.


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